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 PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:49 pm 

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Teach me DUTCH!

I'd really love to learn some Dutch, and maybe other non-Duch freaksters will be interested too! Very Happy

Ok, let's start with the Wildy's alphabet: http://www.youtube.com/user/nyohayden#p/u/10/Joxbgwq9BLQ

First of all, it's done in a very cool way! Cool
I tried to repeat the letters, and I had diffieculties with G, H, R. (Well, I'm not surprised, I remember the fun when I tried to pronounce the name of the airport and other funny Dutch words with you Dutchies Laughing) Also I didn't get the difference between the pronunciation of V and W, and also Y was a bit unclear to me Smile

 
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 PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:56 pm 

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The idea is great! let's try at least!

I remember listening to that radio program with Ruud as a guest, where he was talking about ECHOES, so i could hardly understand a word, and if i did it was a name of our song just before it started playing, so i shouldn't be the master of Dutch to understand it Smile

 
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 PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:17 pm 

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Re: Teach me DUTCH!

LittleBird wrote:
Also I didn't get the difference between the pronunciation of V and W, and also Y was a bit unclear to me Smile


ditto

Y sounds like E to me?

 
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 PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:51 pm 

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Very Happy Anna, thanks for making this topic, and I hope Sacha is willing to help too Wink


The Dutch 'G' is a difficult letter to pronounce indeed...you have to use the back of your throut,...(like when you are having a bad cold and you want to clear your throat) - (In the south of Holland the people are using a softer sound more like CH as in loCH)


The Dutch 'H' isn't that difficult, it's like saying (H)air and (A)bove

The Dutch 'R' is something strange, there are 3 ways to create this letter.
It is slightly rolling

For your help, here is another site with a good explanation movie.

http://www.dutchgrammar.com/en/?n=SpellingAndPronunciation.02

 
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 PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:00 pm 

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Of course I'll help!

First lesson: your Lithuanian word "dabar" is in Dutch a wee bit shorter: "nu", pronounced with an n like now and a u as the second u in future.

Lithuanian "čia" is in Dutch "hier". A bit like here (and with the same meaning) but the ie should be pronounced like the ea in easy.


(Some Lithuanian girl I once knew, tought me these two words. Forgot her name but remembered the lesson. Even wrote a poem entitled "Dabar")

 
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 PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:25 am 

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Wildman wrote:
Very Happy Anna, thanks for making this topic, and I hope Sacha is willing to help too Wink


The Dutch 'G' is a difficult letter to pronounce indeed...you have to use the back of your throut,...(like when you are having a bad cold and you want to clear your throat) - (In the south of Holland the people are using a softer sound more like CH as in loCH)


The Dutch 'H' isn't that difficult, it's like saying (H)air and (A)bove

The Dutch 'R' is something strange, there are 3 ways to create this letter.
It is slightly rolling

For your help, here is another site with a good explanation movie.

http://www.dutchgrammar.com/en/?n=SpellingAndPronunciation.02
Thanks WIldy, much more clear now Smile The site is great, just I'll have to listen to it when Ieva's asleep, she's too loud for me to hear anything Laughing
I remember you and Bianca not agreeing on the pronunciation of the R Very Happy Is it because of the regional differences in pronunciation?

 
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 PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:35 am 

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Heropsychosacha wrote:
Of course I'll help!

First lesson: your Lithuanian word "dabar" is in Dutch a wee bit shorter: "nu", pronounced with an n like now and a u as the second u in future.

Lithuanian "čia" is in Dutch "hier". A bit like here (and with the same meaning) but the ie should be pronounced like the ea in easy.


(Some Lithuanian girl I once knew, tought me these two words. Forgot her name but remembered the lesson. Even wrote a poem entitled "Dabar")
Wow Sach you surprised me! And you can even type this specific lithuanian letter Č! "Here and now", eh? "Čia ir dabar" it is Yes
So in Dutch that would be "Hier en nu"? Smile

Do you pronounce the r in "hier"?

 
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LittleBird wrote:
Heropsychosacha wrote:
Of course I'll help!

First lesson: your Lithuanian word "dabar" is in Dutch a wee bit shorter: "nu", pronounced with an n like now and a u as the second u in future.

Lithuanian "čia" is in Dutch "hier". A bit like here (and with the same meaning) but the ie should be pronounced like the ea in easy.


(Some Lithuanian girl I once knew, tought me these two words. Forgot her name but remembered the lesson. Even wrote a poem entitled "Dabar")
Wow Sach you surprised me! And you can even type this specific lithuanian letter Č! "Here and now", eh? "Čia ir dabar" it is Yes
So in Dutch that would be "Hier en nu"? Smile

Do you pronounce the r in "hier"?


I've always been interested in languages Very Happy

Yes, you have to pronounce the r. Great example is in the song "hier" by Dutch band Blof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkHju3vx0I8

 
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 PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:23 am 

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Heropsychosacha wrote:
LittleBird wrote:
Heropsychosacha wrote:
Of course I'll help!

First lesson: your Lithuanian word "dabar" is in Dutch a wee bit shorter: "nu", pronounced with an n like now and a u as the second u in future.

Lithuanian "čia" is in Dutch "hier". A bit like here (and with the same meaning) but the ie should be pronounced like the ea in easy.


(Some Lithuanian girl I once knew, tought me these two words. Forgot her name but remembered the lesson. Even wrote a poem entitled "Dabar")
Wow Sach you surprised me! And you can even type this specific lithuanian letter Č! "Here and now", eh? "Čia ir dabar" it is Yes
So in Dutch that would be "Hier en nu"? Smile

Do you pronounce the r in "hier"?


I've always been interested in languages Very Happy

Yes, you have to pronounce the r. Great example is in the song "hier" by Dutch band Blof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkHju3vx0I8
That's a cool example, thanks Sach! Very Happy

 
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LittleBird wrote:
Heropsychosacha wrote:
LittleBird wrote:
Heropsychosacha wrote:
Of course I'll help!

First lesson: your Lithuanian word "dabar" is in Dutch a wee bit shorter: "nu", pronounced with an n like now and a u as the second u in future.

Lithuanian "čia" is in Dutch "hier". A bit like here (and with the same meaning) but the ie should be pronounced like the ea in easy.


(Some Lithuanian girl I once knew, tought me these two words. Forgot her name but remembered the lesson. Even wrote a poem entitled "Dabar")
Wow Sach you surprised me! And you can even type this specific lithuanian letter Č! "Here and now", eh? "Čia ir dabar" it is Yes
So in Dutch that would be "Hier en nu"? Smile

Do you pronounce the r in "hier"?


I've always been interested in languages Very Happy

Yes, you have to pronounce the r. Great example is in the song "hier" by Dutch band Blof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkHju3vx0I8
That's a cool example, thanks Sach! Very Happy


I loved the song too!!

 
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 PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:15 pm 

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LittleBird wrote:

I remember you and Bianca not agreeing on the pronunciation of the R Very Happy Is it because of the regional differences in pronunciation?


Yes indeed, in the region of Leiden, we have a so called rolling R....

This is an old clip from ´Rubberen Robbie´ a band from Leiden, with a real Leids accent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFypjiC14jM&feature=related

If you listen to the pronounciation of the R, I think you will l.o.l. Laughing

 
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Wildman wrote:
LittleBird wrote:

I remember you and Bianca not agreeing on the pronunciation of the R Very Happy Is it because of the regional differences in pronunciation?


Yes indeed, in the region of Leiden, we have a so called rolling R....

This is an old clip from ´Rubberen Robbie´ a band from Leiden, with a real Leids accent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFypjiC14jM&feature=related

If you listen to the pronounciation of the R, I think you will l.o.l. Laughing
Well my ear is not that trained to Dutch pronunciation to laugh at their R. I thought sometimes it sounded close to the English R, no?

Btw, what happens there at 3:28, I've been wondering while walking along the canals of Amsterdam, how often people fall into the water? Because often there's no fencing at all, for me it looks a little unnerving Laughing

 
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Lik mijn rett!

Lol

Kutt

 
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Ed wrote:
Lik mijn rett!

Lol

Kutt


Twisted Evil Laughing Dmitri,..you bad boy, faul language, faul language.

2 small mistakes too Wink

1. Lik mijn reet = kiss my ass
2. Lol = having fun (So when we Dutchies write down lol it has two meanings)
3. Kut = I am not sure if I can translate that, but it is the baddest word for the female genitals.

But Dmitri, you know much more,... and I don't know if you can remember what you said about smoking when you where at our place Razz

 
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 PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:33 pm 

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komma rokken Shocked

 
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 PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:38 pm 

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Spicing up the thread boys? Laughing

 
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"Jongens, gedraag jullie!" (Guys, behave!)

"Laten we Anna's mooie topic niet vervuilen met die schuttingtaal" (Let's not polute Anna's beautiful topic with this bad language)

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:28 am 

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Ed wrote:
komma rokken Shocked


Yes Dmitri, you still remember a little bit...I will not write down what you actually said Laughing as we should behave a bit more... Twisted Evil Wink like Sacha asked us.

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:43 am 

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*On Topic*

If Anna and the others have practiced with the video i.r.o. the pronounciations we can go on and teach them their first words...otherwise it is only the writing and they will not be very good with the speaking thing Wink

First word is the Dutch word for 'I'

Ik pronounced as in kick

Second word is the Dutch word for 'he'

Hij pronounced a bit as in rice

Third word is the Dutch word for 'she'

Zij pronounced a bit as in rice

Btw, I have found a very nice site which can help you out more with the pronounciation.

http://www.learndutch.nu/language-courses/lesson1.htm

 
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 PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:46 am 

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Ik, Hij, Zij! Very Happy Are the first letters capitalized?

 
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